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Meeting 2012 11 23

Attendance: - Chair - Andrew (Admin SB, Data 2nd) - Content - Barak

SUMMARY: - Backporting the current trunk changes to 6.0 branch is approved by content - SF Update sounds reasonable - Agenda Item#2 unable to discuss due to lack of Code Team presence.

Log - [14:46] <@Chair[Andrew]> Bangs gavel Welcome to our non-quorum Board of Directors Meeting. It's Friday, 2:46pm (PST). - [14:46] <@Chair[Andrew]> Our Agenda is: - [14:46] <@Chair[Andrew]> 1.) Policy on backporting fixes from trunk to 6.0.0 - [14:46] <@Chair[Andrew]> 2.) State of play on what's been narrowed down by the Code team for 6.x - [14:46] <@Chair[Andrew]> 3.) Upgrade of sf.net to their new forge system - [14:47] <@Chair[Andrew]> Item 1 - That is a very good question. I went to town hacking apart the core data sets to bring them to the newest standards - [14:48] Ok, first, has the decision been made to do an incremental release on the 6.0 line? - [14:48] <@Chair[Andrew]> Good question, and I believe there are fixes that would warrant it. - [14:49] <@Chair[Andrew]> JIRA already has it set up, so I can only assume James intends to do at least a 6.00.1 release - [14:49] Second question was going to be, what would prevent us from doing a data only update if there is no need for a code update? - [14:50] Ok, that makes my second question there kinda moot, although we should decide how far we go with backporting and when we quit. - [14:50] <@Chair[Andrew]> Not sure I understand the context - [14:50] <@Chair[Andrew]> However, we stop supporting the 6.0 branch once the Data / Code makes keeping updates impractical - [14:51] <@Chair[Andrew]> The only difference between trunk and 6.0 at this point is vast changes in the data and some code fixes - [14:51] <@Chair[Andrew]> but no underlying code changes or data changes makes one non-compatible - [14:52] I'm for getting as many meaningfiul changes in as we can (meaning basically bringing non-standard sets up to standard). - [14:52] <@Chair[Andrew]> Well that leads me to a tangent... - [14:52] <@Chair[Andrew]> We have some sets I suspect aren't seeing any use - [14:52] I would say no new sources, no new additions to existing sources, only work to bring existing material up to current standards. - [14:53] <@Chair[Andrew]> All trunk changes (Not sure if you see those) have been - massive overhaul of Pathfinder, 3e and 3.5e. - [14:54] <@Chair[Andrew]> Then I have been pushing Alphas into d20ogl after reviewing them (Loads without errors, tags up to date, mechanics appear valid) - [14:55] <@Chair[Andrew]> and in that mix, a few Pathfinder set fixes - [14:55] <@Chair[Andrew]> I don't believe a single new source has been pushed into the trunk at this time. - [14:56] Ok. My take: 6.0 is out. Nothing new to go in. Maintenance/bug fix/standards work only (otherwise we could introduce more bugs requiring another release, etc.) - [14:57] *** TiBook has quit IRC: Quit: This computer has gone to sleep - [14:57] <@Chair[Andrew]> Fair enough. Though, we do have a small issue. Do we want to backport the alpha/d20ogl changes? (I've fixed a bunch of broken code in those sets) - [14:58] <@Chair[Andrew]> i.e. sets that were graduated from alpha - [14:59] Out of curioosity, broken due to age/pcgen change, or broken/never worked> - [15:01] <@Chair[Andrew]> bad code practices that never worked, changes from feats to abilities (still didn't work); basically really old that was never caught since our loader didn't complain till now (Love this newer loader much better at catching broken code). - [15:01] <@Chair[Andrew]> i.e. choosers in auto granted abilities - [15:01] <@Chair[Andrew]> missing MULT - [15:02] <@Chair[Andrew]> or CHOOSE:NUMBER without any preapply - [15:02] <@Chair[Andrew]> incorrect reference name - [15:02] <@Chair[Andrew]> bad damage syntax - [15:02] <@Chair[Andrew]> (1D8 vs. 1d8, or 1d8+1+1d6) - [15:03] <@Chair[Andrew]> Over-all, a lot of things that didn't work, never worked, and just plain needed to be fixed. - [15:05] That all sounds worthwhile to backport. - [15:06] <@Chair[Andrew]> Yeah, agreed. - [15:07] Ok, agenda item 2 seems will have to be skipped without James here. - [15:08] <@Chair[Andrew]> Yeah, that is his scope - [15:09] <@Chair[Andrew]> Item #3 - moving to the new Forge. It appears to be a benign upgrade. I don't see much use for us as we've migrated to our own site (wiki, tracker, etc) - [15:09] <@Chair[Andrew]> But the SF people would like us to upgrade so they can retire the old system. - [15:10] Is that what it mostly is? Better support for users of a project? - [15:10] <@Chair[Andrew]> As I understand it, more feature rich, better user experience, and upgraded functionality. - [15:11] <@Chair[Andrew]> I'm all for the move - [15:12] As long as it's not going to force us to change our repository yet, I'm good with it. - [15:12] <@Chair[Andrew]> nope - [15:13] <@Chair[Andrew]> SVN vs. GIT is a separate discussion - [15:13] <@Chair[Andrew]> and has nothing to do with this upgrade - [15:15] <@Chair[Andrew]> unless you have any open items, I move to adjourn the bod meeting and then have a content meeting ;) - [15:16] I don't have anything further for the general BoD meeting. - [15:16] <@Chair[Andrew]> bangs gavel BoD meeting adjourned.


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